From: fake@no-spam-on.net (K)
Subject: ASSC: AFTSD-2  My first visit to Tally Ho, Las Vegas NV.
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 03:08:37 -0700



This post is probably too long and contains info not directly related to 

strip clubs, but so what I'm going to write about it anyway.  If you want 

the Tally Ho review, just skip down to that part.



Before I get started let me thank LMR and others who have posted about 

the Vegas strip clubs.  Also thanks to others, such as ZBone and Marc182 

for their web pages providing accurate reviews of the strip clubs in 

their areas.  BTW I can't vouch for ZBones or LMR strip club reviews, but 

I have been to all of the Tucson strip clubs and Marc's web page is far 

more accurate that TUSCL.



Due to a previous extremely bad experience with Las Vegas I swore off 

visiting that city and any of strip clubs.  At the time I thought it 

would be permanent.  



Two events however changed my mind, and made me decide to visit Vegas 

again.  The first, was this newsgroup.  The second was a singles club, 

which I am a member, scheduled a trip to Vegas for the first weekend in 

August.  As at the time I was looking to get away, I decided to take a 

chance and sign up for the trip.  At the time going to any strip club was 

only secondary.



Well we flew up to Vegas Friday afternoon and the first evening we stayed 

pretty much together as a group.  Although, the strip was unstructured, 

there were several optional events.  So the first night I was busy with 

dinner at the Dive, a restaurant that is right at home on the strip.  

Followed by little gambling, where I actually came out ahead, a first for 

me.  (Only $20 though, I'm not a big gambler.)  With the final group 

event for the evening, watching 4 of our members strap a big elastic cord 

to their ankles and leap off a tower.  



I of course did not participate, in the bungee jumping as:  1. I am a 

firm believer in Murphy Law, and I know if I was ever you try it, the 

cord would snap.  2. I'm not about to pay good strip club money to jump 

off a perfectly good tower.  



I did watch the one veteran bungee jumper make his fifth jump, along with 

three others make their very first jumps.  In other words, they supplied 

the free entertainment for the evening.



One observation about Nevada, you can find bars just about anywhere.  The 

bungee jumping place had it's own bar and souvenir shop.  I don't know if 

the bar is for before or after the jump.  I do know we spent more time 

hanging around the bar afterwards watching everyone's videotape of the 

jump than we did actually watching the jump.



Saturday morning, there was no scheduled events, until dinner that 

evening.  My roommate, who is not into strip clubs, wanted to do every 

roller coaster in town.  I on the other hand, was thinking about visiting 

Tally Ho.  



Before I left Tucson, I plugged the addresses of Tally Ho and a few other 

strip clubs to get a general idea of where they were located.  I was 

halfway expecting Tally Ho to be way off strip as one review indicated 

that it was in a industrial area.  I was somewhat surprised that Tally Ho 

was located relatively close to the Stratosphere.  



The roller coaster on top of the Stratosphere was the first one on my 

roommates list, so we headed off to the Stratosphere, stopping for 

breakfast on the way.  My roommate was after the roller coaster.  As for 

myself, I not only wanted to play the tourist role, but check out the 

location of Tally Ho. 



Well we both ended up walking to the Stratosphere.  My roommate went 

straight to the roller coaster, with only a brief look around on the 

observation deck.  I however spent several minutes, walking around 

looking at the scenery, the strip, downtown from a distance, peoples 

backyards (The people living east of the Stratosphere must be pissed.) 

and trying to see how many of the strip clubs I could locate.  Had no 

problem locating Olympic Gardens, Cheetahs and Tally Ho.  Where I quickly 

realized the only way I will reach Tally Ho is if I take a cab.



From a purely distance perspective, it would have been possible to walk 

to Tally Ho.  I had already covered more than that distance walking to 

the Stratosphere, so distance is not the problem.



One review of Tally Ho indicated that it is in a industrial area.  That's 

an understatement.  Tally Ho is located in a industrial area, just south 

of Sahara, tucked between the railroad tracks on the East and the 

Interstate on the West.  Distance from the strip is no problem, 

accessibility from the strip is a major problem for anyone walking.  To 

walk from the strip to Tally Ho would have involved, first walking though 

one of the more run down areas of Vegas, with plenty of transients laying 

around.  Followed, by either crossing multiple railroad tracks or using 

the overpass at Sahara. What's more, at the time, the railroad tracks 

were occupied by two long trains.  And I could not make out any form of 

sidewalk on the overpass, but there was plenty of traffic.



After I felt I got my $5 worth from the Stratosphere I headed back to the 

hotel.  Most of the group had dispersed with everyone doing whatever they 

came to Vegas for.  I spent the remaining morning hanging out at the 

hotel trying to see what the others were up to.  Some were hanging around 

the pool, so I joined them for a while.  But, the problem with hanging 

out at the pool is that even with the overhead misters it gets hot.



After taking as much sun and heat as I can take, I decide that it is now 

time to visit Tally Ho.  So I then caught a cab.  (Yes folks this is 

where the review starts.)



When the cab arrived at Tally Ho, I was not surprised at the size of the 

club, nor was I surprised when the cabbie followed me into the club.  

From the reviews of the Las Vegas strip clubs and their policies towards 

cabbies I expected a small club and for the cabbie to follow me.  I don't 

think this cabbie deserved any kick-back from the club however.  The 

cabbie who took me back to the hotel, actually charged me $2 less (about 

20%) than the first cabbie.  I ended up giving them both the same amount 

of money however.  The second cabbie got a extra $2 tip.



I paid the cover in the little vestibule then was buzzed into the lower 

floor of the main club.  The club was just as described in other reviews.  

There was a small downstairs stage with pole.  No dancers were dancing on 

this stage at the time and it seemed like it's only purpose was to trip 

the unwary when walking into the club. Along one wall was the bar with 

about a half a dozen bar stools.  There was also a TV set above the bar 

showing what was happening on the upstairs stage.  This proves that they 

have at least one camera so the management can watch what goes on in the 

club.  (BTW Tally Ho would not be the first club I have been in with 

cameras.  TD's East has, or at least had, 4 cameras which were monitored 

in their office.)



I didn't spend much time downstairs as the waitress led me upstairs to 

the main room.  To those who have not read other Tally Ho reviews, the 

chairs in the upstairs area would be a pleasant surprise.  They are 

probably some of the most comfortable chairs in any strip club.  The are 

not the typical club chairs, but the kind you might have in your own 

living room.  There's not many of them, as Tally Ho is a tiny club.  A 

quick count reviled there was only between 15 and 20 chairs.  Nice and 

cozy, but could fill up fast.



By comparison, Empress, Tucson's sorry excuse for a totally nude strip 

club only has 18 chairs and they are all bar stools.  The Empress has a 

bigger stage and is part of a larger porn shop.  This makes Tally Ho the 

smallest strip club I have ever been in.  If you count only the area used 

for dancing, the Empress would be a close second.



I then grabbed one of those chairs, at first away from the stage as all 

chairs stage side were full.  Ordered my $6 coke form the waitress.  Then 

proceeded to exhaust my supply of singles tipping the dancers on stage.  

Fortunately the stage

side seats did not stay occupied and I was able to sped most of my time 

in those seats.  



At the time there was only 4 dancers dancing.  All about average in 

looks.  They all trimmed, but only one of them shaved.  I am a fan of the 

bald beaver look.  



BTW Don't ask me for any dancers names.  I don't remember them.  One 

feature of Tally Ho is they have a juke box and not a DJ.  Not having a 

DJ means you don't have to listed to their BS, but you also don't get the 

names of the dancers drummed into you with every song.  Tally Ho is also 

the only club I have ever been in that does not have a DJ, so the silence 

was appreciated.



I spent some time just tipping them stage, passing my money pretty much 

evenly between all 4 dancers.  I didn't go to Tally Ho just to tip on 

stage.  I had selected Tally Ho over the other clubs due to the presence 

of the "Fox Dens".  For those who have not read any other reviews of 

Tally Ho, the Fox Den is a private booth where you can get private 

totally nude lap dances.  



I asked the shaver, about the Fox Den when she was just stepping off 

stage and I think I must have misunderstood her.  I thought she said the 

price was $170 plus $20 a dance.  As this was much higher than reported I 

declined, and opted for a $20 dance in the back chairs.



I was not disappointed as the mileage was higher anything I am accustom 

to in Tucson.  In Tucson, having a dancer, and a totally naked one at 

that, spend the entire time in your lap is very rare.  Here it seems to 

be normal.



I enjoyed it enough to ask for another dance.  The dancer indicated that 

she wanted to go home instead.  No, it's not what you may think.  I 

somehow managed to start getting lap dances right at shift change.  It 

was time for the day shift to leave and the evening shift to arrive.



That was no problem as the evening shift had two ladies who shaved.  One 

of these had a tattoo, but other was pretty enough.  (Ladies, never get a 

tattoo, some men such as myself think any tattoos is ugly. I reject many 

dancers just because they have a tattoo.)



The lady without the tattoo was on stage first.  When she go off she then 

asked me for a dance.  As she also shaved and looked just as good girl 

who had to go home, I said yes.  



She turned out, however to be better than the first dancer in the lap 

dancing department.  After the first dance I asked her for another and 

she suggested the Fox Den.  She also corrected my possible 

misunderstanding about the price.  The $170 was the full price.  $70 to 

the club and the remaining $100 to her for a total of 6 dances.  



I said OK and then went downstairs to complete the transaction and to 

tell the waitress I needed another Coke.  



Now this is where things start to get interesting and could have created 

a major problem and disappointment.  After I have already paid the club 

and dancer, the dancer starts raising hell with the bartender, who also 

seems to have the role as manager.  



The problem is the Fox Den is full.  Some guy has been in there for the 

last 2 hours and he wants to go another half hour.  This does not bother 

me as much as it does the dancer.  I'm in no big hurry and as long as I 

get my time in before meeting the rest the group for dinner I'm not 

concerned.



I sit back down at the stage, thinking it's going to be another half hour 

before I get to see what the Fox Den is like.  The manager then 

approaches me and offers me a Tally Ho VIP card if I will wait.  He 

indicates that it's a $100 value.  This of course gives me the sense of 

déjà vu.  No not the strip club.  When I took the flight to Vegas the 

airline was overbooked and they were asking for volunteers.  Interesting 

parallel, airline asking for people willing to be bumped, strip club 

manager asking for volunteers to be bumped.  And both offering 

compensation.



I tell the manager the truth.  I'm from out of town and have no use for a 

Tally Ho VIP card as I don't know when I'll be back.  The manager then 

offers me $20.  I agree, after all I was not expecting any compensation 

only a half hour wait.



The manager goes downstairs to get the $20 when the dancer arrives 

indicating the Fox Den is free.  Which is a unexpected surprise as I have 

already cut a deal with the manager.  The manager the shows up, shakes my 

hand to palm both the VIP card and $20 to me.  Then the dancer and I head 

off to the Fox Den.



Upon arrival I sit down on one end of the love seat in the tiny room to 

give the dancer a space to sit down.  She then tells me to move over 

towards the center.  She then sits down, completely naked, next to me 

with both legs on my lap. We talk until the current song finishes up and 

during this time I ask her about her rules.  She first tells me Las Vegas 

rules then her own.  I like her own rules much better.  Rules I had no 

intention of violating.



She then starts dancing for me.  I don't remember all of her moves, but 

they were acceptable and of higher mileage than what I am use to.  I do 

let my hands start to wander at one point and she pushes them back to a 

safe region.  Naturally, as I don't want to piss off a dancer regardless 

of her rules I keep my hands is a safe region.  



Next song, however she proves to me she was sincere about her rules as 

she sits down next me again.  At the time my hand is on her stomach.  She 

then gently pushes it south. She, lets me keep my hand there for a few 

minutes massaging some delicate parts then gets up and starts grinding me 

again.



After about 3 songs, two firsts happen in my strip club experiences.  It 

was the only time I have ever stopped a lap dance in progress.  It was 

the only time I ever needed to stop a dance.  I was also too late.



The thoughts that went through my head and actions performed were:

1. This feels good.

2. Oh, oh better have her slow down.  

3. Songs about over, she'll take a brake then.  Just hold out until then.

4. Song ends.

5. She continues not missing a stroke.

6. Next song starts.

7. Me: "Wait"

8. Dancer: "Huh".  Turns to look at me without breaking stride.

9. Me: "Too Late"

10. Dancer continues looking at me, without stopping until it she 

realizes what happened.

11. Dancer: "Oh"

12. Dancer: "Do you need a baby wipe."



After that dance, she got me a baby wipe and we talked for the remainder 

of the time.  She indicated that it does happen.  Also says she hates it 

when some guys come in obviously expecting that to happen.  She also told 

me about one guy who actually came in with hand lotion and tissues.  She 

thought that was way too much.



She also indicated that we were lucky in the curtains were drawn.  They 

had been forced to leave them open.  But apparently because the of the 

wait, the manager allowed them to be closed.  



After the Fox Den I went back to the stage to finish my Coke and then the 

dancer gave me a free pass to the club.  I accepted the pass, even though 

I had the VIP card.  At the time I did not think I would ever use either 

the card or pass so I left thinking they were just a couple of souvenirs 

from Tally Ho.



As it turns out I have used the VIP card.  The above story is actually 

from my first visit to Tally Ho.  Last month, my employer sent me to 

Comdex and I visited Tally Ho again.  That story will have to wait.  I 

did find out on my second visit what the downstairs stage is for.  It's 

for Comdex.  In all of the reviews I have read the downstairs stage was 

unused.  I saw it used on my visits to Tally Ho during Comdex.



One final note.  Giving me the VIP card and $20 for waiting shows the 

Tally Ho has class.  Far more than most of the clubs I have been in.  

They could have just told me to wait but they didn't they offered me the 

card and money.  This action shows Tally Ho cares about their customers.  

More clubs should have the same attitude.





Thanks to all who bothered to read this entire post.  I knew it would be 

long so I was saving it for AFTSD.  I'll try to relate my adventures on 

my two more recent visits to Tally Ho, but they won't make it to AFTSD-2.



	Ken



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